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Has anyone here had any experience with these guys yet? Reviews from Utube are very mixed on everything? Website says M95s are NRA good to very good but, videos say different? I ordered one sent my FFL they confirmed order but, after a couple days had not returned my calls nor answered my emails so asked for my money back. Don't mind saying this outfit scares me.
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Don't mind saying this outfit scares me.
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The RTI company is on the level and sells the hoard of Ethiopian junk relic rifles. They are like all other surplus dealers that do not offer individual condition evaluations or detailed photos. It is a gamble, a big buck gamble. Most get a dirty rifle and they are a wee bit slow at shipping. Packaging is ok, better than Century from 15 years ago. Now the problem is the rifles are really dung heap, wall hangers sold at steep prices. Not anything I would fire. I would say nice, $100 wall hangers. At best you may receiver a poor specimen that might shoot. It is luck of the draw, SRF, gunboards and other forums show examples.
I assume you saw these posts:
http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... f=8&t=4259

http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... rts#p30873

http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... rts#p30789

http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... rts#p29803

gunboards

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/royal ... t-10232487

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/my-ex ... t-10445297

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/ethio ... t-10601033

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/royal ... st-2901673

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/royal ... t-10728550

and on & on...

So RTI is no worse than Classic or some of the now gone surplus sellers-- it was pick of the litter after many secondary companies selected the best of the litter. I guess my problem with RTI is at best you get a very well used, poorly maintained rifle that sat in poor conditions for top buck. It's like the old Century "GOOD " condition code from the 1990s. The joke was..." Centuries good is not so good..." But back then they were excellent parts rifles at $49. A deal for most. We would get 10 and two were winners. Sell off the others as parts. The good old days... :shhh:

If you want a generally poor condition specimen, then RTI has many examples for hanging on a wall, or possible use as parts. Just that the price is nuts for what you get in my opinion. If you want a rifle to shoot, you buy from others like Empire, Todd at Family, Simpsons.... Most likely for equal or less money than at RTI.

Condition is in the eye of the seller, most buyers like to think they are lucky and will get that one, near great, example from the bottom of the pile... we are all dreamers...
Most are somewhat happy with the rifle they get and know they need work... lots of work reconditioning & cleaning. Most got poor bores, some sewer pipe bores on what I would call nice CAI "Good" condition gun, like days of old. Except you pay 4x more. :(

The condition for the price scares the heck out of me, I never ordered what I wanted. I figured even at half the price it was not worth it. But I am old and cheep. By the time you add on a "select fee" for the bore, the markings, and the overall condition, it adds about $300 onto an already high price.

I would have liked an Ethiopian K98k with the Saint George medallion from RTI, but Classic, Interordnance and some others had already culled the pile and also were selling their "pick of the litter" at marked up prices. So, I figured RTI had the left overs. At $500, I would have been one of the RTI huckleberries for an at best, nice worn example, but not $1500. No way!
My 2 cents of input. Search out Empire Arms for an M95.

So, Mr Steve, if you got it spend it, do you feel lucky today? Let us know what you get from a company (RTI) that does not have time to answer the phone... :doh: :doh:
The crew must be busy looking for the best condition M95 in the pile to sell to you. :lol:
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I bet an M95 in 8x50R can be found at local gun shows most do not want them due to ammunition availability & need to reload with expensive dies.
Most of my shooters are SOG specials from long ago when 8x56R variations were 79 bucks and Nazi ammo was $2.25 a package from both AIM & SOG. But I do love an original WW I bring backs in 8x50.

some of my long rifle dogs:
http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... =20&t=4288
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This kind of puts RTI and Classic in the same boat>
Best said:
https://www.msgo.com/threads/royal-tige ... ns.136082/
RTI,IO and Classic are the sleazy used car dealers of the gun world. Never again will I spend a dime with classic. And after all the garbage I’ve seen from io/rti I won’t buy anything from them either.
They have earned their bad reputations
The original Classic was a class act & offered great stuff back in the day- individual rifles had rifle specific descriptions and photos.They had a great run on the newly imported RC s. I got some great RC K98ks from them, but then it was sold.... and integrity& service went to hell. :violin:
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72 usmc wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 11:56 am This kind of puts RTI and Classic in the same boat>
Best said:
https://www.msgo.com/threads/royal-tige ... ns.136082/
RTI,IO and Classic are the sleazy used car dealers of the gun world. Never again will I spend a dime with classic. And after all the garbage I’ve seen from io/rti I won’t buy anything from them either.
They have earned their bad reputations
The original Classic was a class act & offered great stuff back in the day- individual rifles had rifle specific descriptions and photos.They had a great run on the newly imported RC s. I got some great RC K98ks from them, but then it was sold.... and integrity& service went to hell. :violin:
RC s, RC K98ks?
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RC is short for Russian capture K98k rifles back in the early 90s. I never did see M95s sold at Classic when the original; owner had it. I forgot his name. i just wanted to point out there were two distinctly different owners of CLASSIC. The original was indeed a great company. Now long gone like most importers...
In the 1990s most M95s came from SOG and AIM. The majority were 8x56r carbines. All those old posts about the M95 carbines were lost during the forum changes and photo buckets deletion of photos. SRF had a great library of posts all lost...

I would watch Empire if you want an M95, get on their mailing list & get their rifles "for sale" listing -- they go fast. A great place to buy from. Here is a listing of old posts & what was offered & sold ASAP: http://www.surplusrifleforum.org/viewto ... =79&t=3826
A recent example, a M95 rifle on 10 Sept 2021:
AUSTRIAN Model 1895 Mannlicher long-rifle # 9655 (8x56R) mfg. by Steyr in 1916. Excellent refurbished to new condition, with 98% or so bluing and sharp and mirror-bright bore. Matching numbered bolt-knob, right side of stock also stamped 9655. Walnut stock and handguard has many dings and dents from contact with adjacent rifles but is sound with no cracks. Not import-marked, a very attractive M95 long-rifle. PHOTO . . . $675. C&R SOLD
They also show a phot or two. Link to EMPIRE: https://www.empirearms.com/newstuff.htm
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Thanks for the link to Empire I've never dealt with them before but, still own some of the SOG rifles I bought from them.
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The pictures out of the warehouse are downright scary.
There are goats in there climbing on piles of guns.
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This just arrived by Xxarchetypexx on GB . This is an 8x50r version so ammo is load or make your own. From RTI And I have re- posted 4 of the owners pictures. He indicates a select so it must have cost a bundle....
link: https://www.gunboards.com/threads/royal ... e.1201266/

It looks ok but no details of the bore of filth....
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Here is another M95 in 8x50r carbine with photos:
https://www.gunboards.com/threads/took- ... 0.1180683/

And for documentation RTI prices and select options offered in 2021;
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So a base model either a dog Budapest or Steyr + 349.99
select Budapest =+50, select Steyr (Most common) =+50 and a handselect on top of the "name" select + another $100 ???? And then some poor suckers have the FFL transfer and shipping ??? At least an antique can go to the home and avoid the transfer fee.
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