Mystery “1927” 7mm Ammo: help identify

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Mystery “1927” 7mm Ammo: help identify

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In a batch of swedish M41 ammo i recently purchased was this one lone box of ammo that appears to be 7mm Mauser. The labels on the box are in a hispanic dialect language and the headstamps on the cases read “HP 1927.” The prjectiles appear to be cupronickel and do attract a magnet. They also have the remains of what appears to be a painted black tip. Armor piercing round possibility? Any help identifying this ammo, and whether it is considered safe to shoot, would be appreciated. See pictures attached.
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I think they are AP tracer, they were pulled down and reloaded in 1973.
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I understand the black tip being AP but how do you determine they are tracer also? Is the projectile both AP and tracer?
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Trazadores = Tracer en Espanol.
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Ok. Thanks. But i dont see that word on my box anywhere.

Think these would be safe to try and shoot? Are they collectable at all?
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I would shoot them but I tend to be a shooter more than a collector...clean for corrosive ammo.

There seems to be a German Language label underneath the new label pasted over the top.

Your ammo is Swiss made to get around post WW1 restrictions on Austrian ammo exports:

Here is the exact type of ammo:

https://municion.org/Ficha-07-057-BGC-080-0174/See: https://www.cartridgecollectors.org/hea ... ampcodes#H

See Municion.org It is in Espanol but it has a translation feature.https://municion.org/producto/7-x-57-mauser/

Cool ammo box!
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The HP indicates Austrian. Where did you get the swiss production?
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Read the article on municion.org. The 1927 production was run by Solothurn for Hirteburger due to the treaty of St. Germain.
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Yes, Armor piercing / Tracer made in 1927 and Reloaded in 1973 with ball powder
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Cool. Still supposed to be functional? Or is it more valuable as collectible stuff? Personally id live to shoot at least some of it
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I shot some on steel (140 yards) 15 or so years ago. I didn’t see a trace, maybe it’s a dim ignition tracer..or just timed out chemically.
Flash on the steel from impact friction and an AP dent in the steel.
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Ok thanks
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