Smith Corona M1903A3 help

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Smith Corona M1903A3 help

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So I found this somewhat locally listed M1903A3 and I'm looking for some pointers before purchase. I have the pictures he's sent me of the rifle. I've asked for a few more of the furniture and if the bolt is marked or not.

Any and all information helps. I'm not new to milsurps but I've very limited experience with these. Whats a good price for this particular example?

Thank you.
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Re: Smith Corona M1903A3 help

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More pics...

Can't post the overview pics due to file size
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Got them to work
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Does it still have the original SC barrel? From what I can see it has a mixture of Remington 'A3 and earlier '03 parts.

I am going to reprint a post I did a while back on another forum showing the differences between Remington and Smith-Corona M1903-A3 rifles using one of each example in my collection. I hope it is of some help in deciphering what parts are correct for each manufacturer.


There were far more Remington made '03-A3's manufactured than Smith-Corona's, which is why S-C’s are less commonly seen.

Remington made 1903 and 1903 modified....364,954
M1903-A3..............................................1,020,675
M1903-A4..................................................29,964

Smith-Corona Typewriter Company............. 236,831



Smith-Corona in front and Remington in the rear:
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Barrel dates commonly pre date the receiver from 0 to 3 months. The Smith-Corona receiver was made in Feb, 1943 and has a barrel date of 12-42 and is one of the six groove barrels supplied to S-C by High Standard. Later on H-S barrels were switched over to four groove rifling. There are both six and four groove barrels with 1-43 dates on them so the change over came early in the production run.
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The Remington was made in Aug, 1943 and has a barrel date of 5-43
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While they are subtle, there are many differences in the manufacture of the two rifles even though the parts are 100% interchangeable. One of the most obvious differences is the bolt sleeve.

Remington
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Smith-Corona
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Buttplates. Left is the Remington, right is S-C
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Trigger guards are shaped differently at the front screw area. In addition, although they look the same, the various sub inspectors stamps are different.
S-C
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Remington
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Stocks are different also. One of the easiest ways to tell a S-C stock vs a Remington is the inletting for the front band spring. The Remington has a square cut at the front and S-C has a rounded cut.
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The comb has a different shape
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Firing proofs are also different sizes.
Remington
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S-C
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And of course the final acceptance cartouches are different. Since both Remington and Smith-Corona were in the same ordnance district, the inspectors stamp (FJA) was the same, and both had the ordnance crossed cannon stamp, but Remington stocks were also stamped with an "RA".
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One sure way to tell who made the small parts is Remington very conveniently stamped a "R" on all small parts they manufactured. S-C on the other hand, has almost no identifying marks on their parts.

Smith-Corona used bolts made by Commercial Controls, marked CC or one whose manufacturer I don't know (possibly S-C?)that is marked by an "X" on top of the bolt handle. I have also heard that there are bolts marked "SC", but I have never personally seen one. Remington stamped their trademark "R" on the underside of the bolt handle.

S-C
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Remington
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In addition, there are a few other things to look for. As you look at the pictures I have posted, notice that the finish on the various parts is different. Remington tended to use DuLite bluing on their small parts and it seems that Smith-Corona used a combination of both blued and parkerized small parts. On my examples, the color of the parkerizing on the receivers is different between the two manufacturers. If you run into any 1903 Springfield, Remington 1903 or 1903A3 or Smith-Corona and all the various parts have the exact same color of parkerized finish, it has been refinished.

Well there you have it. I am not claiming that I have documented all the possible differences, but this should give anyone looking at possibly purchasing an '03-A3 at least a general guideline of what to look for.
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Re: Smith Corona M1903A3 help

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@Highpower Thanks for all the great info and pics.
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