Military Surplus k98ks commonly found at gun shows

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Did you see/read the bottom of page 2 and page 3 about Israeli K98Ks in this post.

Did you know about this reference: https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/201 ... i-service/

That is a mixmaster of parts on that 42 code k98k by Mauser Oberndorf. The nazi markings are really defaced. Czechoslovakia supplied tons of all sorts of captured/left over German arms & ammunition to Israeli people in their fight for a nation in 1947 & 1948. Yours is one that most likely came in as an 8mm that was later converted. Others were later made in .308. The best ones to obtain are Israeli K98ks still in 8mm that failed to get converted.
Your example certainly looks like it came from the Guatemala exports hoard of K98s that hit the market around 2002-2006. Early imports were in the mid 1960s by Interarmms . Does yours have an import mark?
As I had stated....Your IDF mauser is most likely one of the Israeli K98s exported to Guatemala. Almost all were the .308 conversion not the IDF 8mm Mauser version. Ones in 8mm from 1947-49 are a great find. The Guatemala hoard was obtained by importers in the US in the early 2000 and started showing up at gun shows around 2002 and later. Like Nam bring backs, these IDF Mausers suffered in the humid South American jungle climate and most from the Guatemala imports are seen in very poor condition- both the stock and the metal. Bores fared worse. Does it have a Century or PW import mark? Gibbs also had these. Generally the crown and muzzle as well as the chamber condition is reflected on what you observe on the outside. I can not tell if it has the cleaning rod hole drilled like a normal K98k or is a later put together lacking the cleaning rod - a Post war fabrication? :shhh: Found it:
Has bayonet lug, and the stock seems to be drilled for cleaning rod
so it is a capture and not a post war rebuild.

Also see this interesting reference post :
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/-/14-522062/?page=1
The Israelis had acquired whatever surplus Mauser 98 rifles they could get their hands on in the late 1940s and early/mid 1950s, along with ordering batches of new production M1930s from FN and new production VZ98Ns from Czechoslovakia. Then starting in the mid/late 1950s, the various Mauser 98s that the Israelis had on hand were converted to 7.62 NATO and standardized into K98k-style configuration. So in addition to the surplus WW2 German K98k rifles and postwar production FN and Czech rifles that make up the vast majority of 7.62 NATO caliber IDF Mausers, you'll also occasionally see one made from another Mauser receiver
Thank you for that fine example and all the photos. If possible could you please show the import mark.
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Thank you for the response!! I did read the posts on Israeli K98's which was super informative but still left me uncertain with this particular one. With all of the info I read and the markings mine has it made me lean towards a legit WWII German gun that was a Czech capture/rebuild based on the mixed serial numbers and lack of Czech stamps. There are no import marks that I can find anywhere on the rifle! Under the handguard the barrel looks fantastic and the stock is in good shape. The muzzle and bore both are in good condition as well.

I did get this at a gun show probably around 10-13 years ago and always assumed it was a Russian Capture just based on the little I had read on it. But after doing more research it's very obvious it's not! I really just wanted to consult you expert's and get it's true history.
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I would venture to guess that is an early Interterms 1960 import lacking the import mark; not a later rifle from the Guatemala hoard due to no import mark and the great barrel condition under the wood and its inside rifling. Definitely not an RC. What would have been fantastic is if it was still in 8mm Mauser with the Israeli markings. Still a very nice rifle. Thanks for posting that specimen.
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Thank you again, 72 USMC, for the info and input! It's a beautiful gun and a fun shooter that's for sure! Hopefully I did well paying $300 for it that many years ago and it's only increased in value! It's the one gun I always said I'd never sell because of the history of it.
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